Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School
These are thoughts that go beyond what we normally discuss in Sunday School. We can be mature enough to tolerate discussing things more deeply and challenging our faith. I hope my thoughts can spark some introspection and help you grow and deepen your faith. Correlates with the Come Follow Me curriculum of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Episodes

5 days ago
5 days ago
Topics: 1) Coping with church criticism; 2) Church roles evolution; and 3) Afterlife vision.
In this thought-provoking episode, we focus on the topics of coping with church criticism, the evolution of church roles, and beliefs about the afterlife. Drawing from the historical critiques faced by the church, the speaker examines how institutional responses have historically fallen short. The discussion also touches on the evolving role of bishops and potential future changes within the church hierarchy. A reflective exploration of personal beliefs about the afterlife offers a fresh perspective, challenging traditional views while promoting a compassionate understanding of individuality and choice. Join the journey of honest reflection and thought stimulation on these compelling topics.

Sunday Jun 22, 2025
Sunday Jun 22, 2025
Topics: 1) Forgiveness; 2) William McLellin; and 3) The Book of Commandments.
In this episode, we delve into ideas often left unsaid in Sunday School. We explore the concept of forgiveness as depicted in the Doctrine and Covenants, questioning conventional teachings and emphasizing personal peace over institutional demands.
The narrative of William McLellin offers an intriguing story of faith, dissent, and resilience amidst church leadership conflicts and personal spiritual experiences. His journey through excommunication and continued belief in the Book of Mormon suggests a complex relationship with organized religion.
Finally, we touch on the origins of the Book of Commandments, highlighting its evolution into the Doctrine and Covenants and examining changes reflecting Joseph Smith's evolving doctrines. Join us for an honest discussion aimed at sparking meaningful conversations.

Sunday Jun 08, 2025
Sunday Jun 08, 2025
Topics: 1) Unfulfilled promises; 2) Ezra Booth; and 3) Chaste thoughts.
In this thought-provoking episode, we dive into the topics of unfulfilled promises, the story of Ezra Booth, and the concept of chaste thoughts. Reflect on the journey of the Colesville Saints, who faced repeated relocations based on unmet promises, and consider the broader implications for those who question institutional guarantees.
Explore the life of Ezra Booth, a Methodist preacher who became one of the earliest critics of Joseph Smith after experiencing personal disillusionment despite witnessing a miraculous healing. Understand how his journey from faith to agnosticism reflects a deeper struggle with expectation versus reality.
Finally, challenge conventional teachings on chastity by examining the impact of repressing sexuality. Advocate for a healthier perspective on sexuality by acknowledging it as a divine gift and understanding its place in doctrine without the fear of repression. This episode aims to spark meaningful discussions around these often unspoken topics.

Sunday May 25, 2025
Sunday May 25, 2025
Topics: 1) Correct teachings and Leman Copley; 2) Marriage; and 3) Stewardship.
This episode of "Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School" explores unconventional ideas and perspectives on Doctrine and Covenants, Sections 49-57. The discussion touches on topics such as correct teachings, the story of Leman Copley and his struggle with Shaker beliefs, and the complexities surrounding marriage and stewardship within the church.
Through a candid analysis, the episode questions traditional views on marriage roles and the church's approach to stewardship, advocating for more equitable partnerships. It also highlights the challenges in maintaining one's integrity and generosity while navigating religious expectations. Join the conversation as these ideas aim to spark discussion and bring light to lesser-heard viewpoints.

Sunday May 11, 2025
Sunday May 11, 2025
Topics: 1) Jesus Christ is our advocate with the Father; 2) Stand in Holy Places; and 3) Is the Church welcoming?
In this episode, we dive into unconventional thoughts and ideas that challenge traditional narratives within the church community. We begin by exploring the role of Jesus Christ as our Advocate, questioning the necessity of intermediation between us and our Heavenly Parents. Moving on, we discuss the concept of "Standing in Holy Places," emphasizing that personal attachment and meaning can create sacred spaces beyond conventional religious settings.
Finally, we analyze the church's inclusivity, focusing on how exclusive language and certain attitudes create barriers for visitors and outsiders. We tackle the complex issues of exclusivity, persecution mentality, and the importance of making genuine connections within our communities. Listen in as we encourage open discussions and genuine reflection during lessons.

Saturday Apr 26, 2025
Saturday Apr 26, 2025
Topics: 1) Zion; and 2) The Law
In this week's episode, we delve into thought-provoking topics related to personal freedom, belonging, and the true essence of unity. As we explore Doctrine and Covenants sections 37 through 44, we reflect on the concept of Zion and the significance of building a community where individuals are valued for their unique identities rather than forced conformity.
We discuss the implications of imposing conformity within families and relationships, highlighting the importance of love and acceptance as foundational values. The episode also touches on the role of laws in guiding individuals to make ethical choices, encouraging personal growth beyond rigid guidelines.
Join us as we challenge traditional narratives and offer fresh perspectives that may inspire stimulating conversations within your own families and communities.

Saturday Apr 12, 2025
Saturday Apr 12, 2025
Topics: 1) Missionary work; 2) People who leave.
In this week's episode, the focus is on sharing candid thoughts about missionary work and the experience of people who leave the church. The lesson challenges traditional ideas and encourages open conversations about personal spirituality and faith.
The discussion questions the approach of pushing spiritual beliefs onto others and critiques the "orange juice" analogy used to justify missionary efforts. The episode also addresses the importance of honest faith examination, exploring the dynamics of internal motivations and the impact of church teachings on individuals.
Furthermore, it delves into the journeys of two historical church figures, Northrop Sweet and Ezra Thayre, providing insights into their decisions to part ways with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Through this exploration, listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own spiritual paths and the authenticity of their faith journeys.

Saturday Mar 29, 2025
Saturday Mar 29, 2025
Topics: 1) Sacrament food and drink; 2) Hiram page’s revelation; 3) All things unto me are spiritual; and 4) The devil cannot tempt children.
Welcome to another episode where we delve into sometimes unspoken ideas in Sunday School teachings. This week, we explore the concept of focusing on the spirit rather than the letter of the law, as demonstrated in the doctrine of sacrament food and drink. This discussion extends to Hiram Page's controversial revelation and its implications on church authority and control. We mention how this historical precedent continues to affect church practices today.
Furthermore, we consider how the idea that 'All Things Unto Me Are Spiritual' urges us to look for deeper spiritual lessons in our everyday practices, challenging the emphasis on strict obedience. Finally, we ponder on the notion that children are untouched by Satan's temptations until a certain age. Join us as we seek to spark thoughtful dialogue on these intriguing topics.

Saturday Mar 22, 2025
Saturday Mar 22, 2025
Topics: 1) Emma Hale Smith; and 2) Common consent.
In this episode of "Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School," we delve into the complexities surrounding the life of Emma Hale Smith, the wife of Joseph Smith, and her tumultuous relationship with the early Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We explore her challenges, her defiance against polygamy, and her strained relations with Brigham Young.
The episode further examines the notion of 'common consent' within the church. We critique the concepts of consent and dissent, illustrating how true informed consent and the ability to openly disagree are often hindered within the church's teachings and practices.
Join us as we question the narratives, challenge the status quo, and seek to ignite meaningful discussions around faith, truth, and integrity.

Saturday Mar 15, 2025
Saturday Mar 15, 2025
Topics: 1) The need for a church; 2) Women and priesthood; and 3) Obeying the prophet yields divine protection.
In this episode, we dive into a refreshing perspective on common teachings, particularly challenging the notion of the necessity of organized religion. We question prevailing beliefs on why religious organizations, especially churches, are deemed essential and explore if they truly align with Christ's teachings of kindness and love.
We also tackle the sensitive topic of women's roles in the Church, critiquing how the idea of authority is spun and whether teachings reflect reality.
Moreover, we discuss the concept of obeying the prophet for divine protection, questioning its validity and implications on personal spiritual growth. Thought-provoking questions are posed, aiming to inspire deeper reflection and conversation among listeners. Join us as we unpack these critical issues and invite you to reconsider standard narratives.