Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School
These are thoughts that go beyond what we normally discuss in Sunday School. We can be mature enough to tolerate discussing things more deeply and challenging our faith. I hope my thoughts can spark some introspection and help you grow and deepen your faith. Correlates with the Come Follow Me curriculum of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Episodes

Friday Nov 21, 2025
Friday Nov 21, 2025
Topics: 1) The name of the church; 2) Adam-ondi-Ahman; 3) Tithing; 4) Danites; and 5) The Missouri Mormon War of 1838.
We question institutional messaging about the church name, trace Joseph Smith’s evolving fundraising methods culminating in tithing, examine vigilante and militia actions by and against Mormons, and connect these events to escalating violence and tragic outcomes.
Short, candid, and discussion-sparking—meant to provoke thought and conversation with friends, family, or classes.

Wednesday Nov 05, 2025
Wednesday Nov 05, 2025
Topics: 1) Kirtland temple; 2) Priesthood keys; 3) Salem, MA; 4) Kirtland Safety Society; and 5) Thomas B. Marsh.
This episode takes a frank look at Doctrine and Covenants sections 109–114, covering the Kirtland Temple dedication and vision, the doctrine of priesthood keys, the failed Salem treasure venture, the collapse of the Kirtland Safety Society bank and its fallout, and Thomas B. Marsh.
Rather than a faith-promoting spin, the episode aims for honesty and discussion — questioning priesthood keys as a motivator and control mechanism, pointing out failed prophecies and financial missteps, and arguing Marsh’s split was driven by violence and institutional abuse more than a minor “cream” dispute.

Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
Tuesday Nov 04, 2025
Topics: 1) Zion's camp; and 2) Church administration
This episode examines Zion's Camp and early church administration questioning the traditional narrative about Zion's Camp and its outcomes.
It also discusses the creation of the Quorum of the Twelve and Seventy, the church's evolving administrative changes, and personal observations about shrinking membership and its consequences.

Monday Nov 03, 2025
Monday Nov 03, 2025
Topics: 1) Chastening; 2) Being accepted of the Lord; and 3) The timing of section 97.
We critique common practices of chastening, argue for unconditional divine acceptance over performance-based love, question the heavy emphasis on sacrifice, and raise concerns about the factual timeline of revelations related to events in Missouri.

Saturday Aug 30, 2025
Saturday Aug 30, 2025
Topic: Decoding.
This episode shares candid reflections questioning the clarity and purpose of Joseph Smith's language about truth, knowledge, light, and intelligence.
We describe how Section 93 felt cryptic and repetitive, and draw an analogy to online "decoders" and QAnon—arguing the text invites puzzling rather than practical spiritual growth.
The episode emphasizes honest, critical thinking over mystification and aims to spark discussion among friends, family, and classes.

Saturday Aug 30, 2025
Saturday Aug 30, 2025
Topics: 1) Education and learning; 2) All things for our good; 3) Vienna Jaques; and 4) The Word of wisdom.
This episode offers candid reflections focusing on education and learning, the church's relationship with intellectual inquiry, the limits of the promise that "all things shall work together for our good," and the application of the Word of Wisdom. We also highlight the story of Vienna Jaques and critique how church policies can exclude and judge faithful members.
Expect honest critique rather than faith promotion, personal experiences from BYU and missionary life, and ideas intended to spark discussion with friends, family, or classes.

Saturday Aug 02, 2025
Saturday Aug 02, 2025
Topics: 1) Priesthood; 2) South Carolina; and 3) One Mighty and Strong.
Welcome to this week's episode of "Things I Wish I Could Say in Sunday School," where we dive into some thought-provoking topics from Doctrine and Covenants sections 84 through 87, exploring new perspectives that challenge traditional narratives. This episode, featuring discussions on Priesthood, South Carolina, and the enigmatic prophecy of One Mighty and Strong, aims to spark insightful conversations in your circles.
We begin with a candid analysis of the concept of priesthood, examining its implications for women within a patriarchal system. Digging deep into the lesson manual's attempt to address the perceived inequalities, we question whether the explanations hold up against the reality of systemic patriarchy embedded in the church's structure.
The episode further investigates the "Civil War Prophecy," shedding light on its historical context. Through this lens, we critique the narratives formed around the prophecy throughout the years.
We conclude with a profound discussion on the prophecy of the One Mighty and Strong, exploring its influence on extremist factions and the resulting violence. The dialogue delves into religious extremism's complex roots, highlighting the connection between entrenched misogyny and radical beliefs that have, disturbingly, led to tragic outcomes.
Join us for an honest and eye-opening episode as we explore these critical topics, encouraging you to reflect and perhaps even ignite important discussions with others.

Sunday Jul 20, 2025
Sunday Jul 20, 2025
Topics: 1) Changes to the D&C (United Firm and Jesse Gause); 2) I, the Lord, am bound; and 3) Virginia H. Pearce’s story.
In this episode, we delve into thought-provoking topics regarding the Doctrine and Covenants. We explore changes to the text over time, including the intriguing story of the United Firm and Jesse Gause. The discussion sheds light on the motivations behind these alterations and their implications on the church's history.
We also revisit doctrines like "I, the Lord, am Bound" and share insights on the impact of such teachings on personal faith and agency. The episode concludes with a critical examination of Virginia H. Pearce's story, highlighting themes of control, love, and the journey toward understanding and acceptance.

Sunday Jul 06, 2025
Sunday Jul 06, 2025
Topics: 1) Coping with church criticism; 2) Church roles evolution; and 3) Afterlife vision.
In this thought-provoking episode, we focus on the topics of coping with church criticism, the evolution of church roles, and beliefs about the afterlife. Drawing from the historical critiques faced by the church, the speaker examines how institutional responses have historically fallen short. The discussion also touches on the evolving role of bishops and potential future changes within the church hierarchy. A reflective exploration of personal beliefs about the afterlife offers a fresh perspective, challenging traditional views while promoting a compassionate understanding of individuality and choice. Join the journey of honest reflection and thought stimulation on these compelling topics.

Sunday Jun 22, 2025
Sunday Jun 22, 2025
Topics: 1) Forgiveness; 2) William McLellin; and 3) The Book of Commandments.
In this episode, we delve into ideas often left unsaid in Sunday School. We explore the concept of forgiveness as depicted in the Doctrine and Covenants, questioning conventional teachings and emphasizing personal peace over institutional demands.
The narrative of William McLellin offers an intriguing story of faith, dissent, and resilience amidst church leadership conflicts and personal spiritual experiences. His journey through excommunication and continued belief in the Book of Mormon suggests a complex relationship with organized religion.
Finally, we touch on the origins of the Book of Commandments, highlighting its evolution into the Doctrine and Covenants and examining changes reflecting Joseph Smith's evolving doctrines. Join us for an honest discussion aimed at sparking meaningful conversations.




